TOP 130.
Church plus State Oppression.
121) Christendom: the historical Orthodox concept of Christendom, closely linked with its almost twin heresy "Christian Empire" is one based in tyranny, bloodshed, and imprisonment and no real freedom, ( murder ) ( churchianity ) ( tyranny )
( authority ) ( people ) ( laity ) ( Empire )
122) Serfdom : the social / economic sins by a church that "cannot err"
( murder ) ( churchianity ) ( tyranny ) ( authority ) ( people ) ( laity ) ( Empire )
123) Churchianity - (derogatory) Any practices of Christianity that are viewed as placing a larger emphasis on the habits of church life, rites, rituals, and man made traditions, rather than on biblical theology and spiritual teachings and example of Jesus. ( churchianity )
124) Crypto-converts: their enforced pseudo "conversion" by threats. what kind of religion threatens people with prison, death or persecution if they do not pretend to convert? Huge numbers forced under their phony "saints equal to the apostles", Emperor Charlemagne etc
( murder ) ( churchianity ) ( tyranny )
( authority ) ( people ) ( laity ) ( Empire )
125) They are spiritual drunkards (Rev 17). INDOCTRINATION of children helps produce this. ( churchianity ) ( children ) Thus a low score on the "Corruption Perception Index".
126) Orthodoxy is an Anachronistic Faith (see 162): the sinister use of uniforms in the faith, and crowns and miters, is based on anachronistic comparisons with the old Roman Empire's clothing. Same with architecture and artifacts. They draw pseudo authority from an Empire that was from the start always evil. (conceptual)
( hypocrisy )
127) Ethno-Phyletism issues: this is a tricky issue as some churches where this "sin" goes on are in war torn areas where they wish to avoid people like shooters and suicide bombers and thus wish only to fellowship with people of the same ethnicity. (racism) ( murder )
128) Movable doctrines - "Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them." Proverbs 5:6. Orthodoxy give far less specific answers than Catholic scholars. If it became an embarrassment to them that their doctrine Jesus earned the resurrection for all means he died to burn people in Hell, I guarantee they would change it and say that they were misunderstood.
(conceptual) ( hypocrisy )
129) "All your sins will be forgiven if you go out on The Crusade" - I have yet to find out if the Orthodox Titular Head made the same promise in the Crusades in which the Byzantine half of the Empire participated. Remember that Orthodoxy makes the oxymoronic claim of being pacifist, which is more like in real terms the clergy don't fight, the "laity" must fight. If the Byzantine Orthodox were really pacifist and said so either the Catholics or Arabs would simply walk in and take over the Eastern part of the Empire unopposed. The Orthodox doctrine on this is an insult to the intelligence of their own church goers.
130) The persecution. imprisonment, murder, torture and banishment of real Christians. ( murder ) ( churchianity ) ( tyranny ) ( authority ) ( people ) ( laity ) ( Empire )
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TOP 140 .
131) Canonization in Orthodoxy is called "Glorification to sainthood" - the form of - but Romans 1 tells us all believers are saints. ( saints ) ( churchianity )
132)
133) Changing the meaning of the Greek expressions "believe on" and "believe in" - this means in Greek "to trust in" or "rely on" Jesus for salvation, obviously this is changed by Orthodoxy, just as the word grace is changed.
( salvation )
134) The Three hierarchs (three heretics actually). refers to
1) Basil the Great (also known as Basil of Caesarea), 329 - 379 AD,
sins: rules for monastic life (unbiblical), contributions to heretical canon law, and contribution to liturgies. (for centuries the Orthodox told the uneducated public he wrote the Liturgy of St. Basil now they try to retract that.
2) Gregory the Theologian (also known as Gregory of Nazianzus) . 330-389 AD,
sins: propagated the heretic Origen, Gregory seems to have been an early sacerdotalist (if so he was one of the most evil men who ever lived), his friend Gregory of Nyssa, may have supported some form of the doctrine of apocatastasis,
3) John Chrysostom. (researching) ( saints ) ( bogus saints )
135: Mortification: this topic has some biblical credibility, but not when it is used as a religious deception device, especially in the sense of it achieving purity or the forgiveness of sin, or connected with the hesychasm or monasticism.
( monks ) ( Catholic ) ( mystics )
136) Oversimplification of the character of God:
the Orthodox oversimplify God's character by saying that if God is love (a scripture) he cannot have wrath. It is a puerile oversimplification of God's character, (do we not also naturally and rightly feel angry about many of the worst crimes we hear of?)
They will even compare a God who has wrath with with demons like Baal and Moloch, in other words they say if God has wrath (he does) he is a sinner!!! Do not forget by saying these things they are talking also about the Holy Spirit.
This is involved in 2 other heresies
1) No wrath of God means no fires of Hell (loving them tortures them in Orthodox theology)
2) Jesus never saved us from the wrath of God when he died and rose again, as if he did he achieved salvation for us all on his own, a truth that destroys Orthodox pretensions about a process of salvation that is a synergy. ( God ) ( Hell )
137) Forgiveness of sin through Calvary denied - absurdly Orthodoxy argues that as Jesus forgave individual sin before the cross and resurrection. the gospel does not bring forgiveness to mankind (as if it did their junk priestcraft/works gospel falls apart). The fact that the gospel is not necessarily the only way God can forgive sin does not stop the fact that sin was and is washed away by his blood. One must remember the resurrection adds justification (to be made just in God's sight) as well as his crucifixion dealing with sin. ( salvation ) ( gospel)
138) Reconciliation
and the Hypostatic Union -
(notice they do not say salvation) In Orthodoxy reconciliation happens in the hypostatic union when Christ is conceived or some say born (the combination of divine and human natures in the single person of Christ.) when the perfection of God and "humankind in its totality" (that is human nature as a collective) are inseparably united in Jesus, (all that is Creator and all that is created) so God reconciles humanity to himself in the person of Christ.
The cross - in Orthodoxy is Christ entering into death to destroy the power of death, not to forgive sin (>>>) wow heresy. Jesus did not die to earn hell for those who would not be otherwise resurrected.
Eastern Church tends towards a therapeutic model of which sees sin as illness,
( salvation ) ( gospel)
139) Renunciation of Errors (in Chrismation ceremonies) - renounce in public the Reformation and the Protestant / Evangelical gospel as false. Laughably they then later on masquerade as Evangelicals as the simple Evangelical gospel is too powerful to oppose. ( salvation ) ( gospel)
140) Denial of "the works of the flesh". The Orthodox are very tricky about this issue. They deny the doctrine of Catholicism of "venial sin and mortal sin" but avoid the more directly biblical issue that certain sins are put in the special classification of "works of the flesh". ( sin ) ( LAW )
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141) A cherry-picking form of The Judaizing heresy - they cherry pick the old law now quote "done away" as if the old testament is there for them to pick and choose laws, and create a new syncretic faith (which is exactly what they have done). What is different about Orthodoxy is (unlike most Judaizing cults) the laws they cherry pick from Mosaic Law are blended with traditions that are entirely anti Mosaic Law (like leavended wine and bread in communion) and even aspects of antisemitism. They do not seem to understand old law was done away, was draconian ("that neither we nor our fathers could bear" - Peter) we do not pick, choose and reinvent bits to keep now, like "holy beards" or golden artefacts in the temple.
note: It is indeed a paradox that Eastern Orthodoxy is on the one hand strongly resists the Judaizing heresy of the so called "Hebrew Roots Movement" yet they have invented a syncretic religion that involves cherry picking old testament concepts and laws and mixing them with the new testament law. ( salvation ) (LAW)
142) They deny the character of the new covenant which is freedom - the new covenant is characterised by freedom in Christ, they adopt the most draconian concepts of the old Mosaic Covenant (described as done away) in order to bring believers in the new covenant era into religious bondage to clockwork religious concepts like keeping a plethora of feasts. In Christ we have freedom about days (Rom 16) and we have freedom in food (Col 2:21) what is more the imposed fast days and food regulations break another of Christs teachings - to keep your fasting a secret. ( salvation ) (LAW)
143) They deny the Millennium Kingdom - as far as my studies go so far, the Eastern Orthodox religion are amillennialist in their theology, probably because they cannot stand the thought Jesus will return, reign here, sweep away the fake sacerdotalist ministry, and rule with those who would not take the mark of the beast. In other words the Eastern Orthodox fake ministry will be swept away.
( Eschatology ) ( authority )
144) Candle lighting - are considered sacrifices to Mary and saints. Mentioned in Rev 18 as sins of the Whore of Babylon. More ritualism and churchianity practices instead of an ongoing relationship with God. They simply discovered people love to light candles, and used this human fascination to destroy human souls. Candles are often used in witchcraft. ( witchcraft ) ( prayer )
145) The liturgical year - the cycle of liturgical seasons, feast days, including celebrations of saints, to be observed in a display of foolish clockwork religiosity, having portions of Scripture to be read out like robots either in an annual cycle or in a cycle of several years. ( salvation ) ( liturgy ) ( forgery )
( spirituality)
146) Canon Law - an admixture of truth and heresy that to the Orthodox has more authority than the new testament. (LAW)
147) Cathedrals - God's Cathedral in Acts was to be in nature by a river. Building big church buildings is largely an insult to the poor. ( churchianity )
( religious hypnotism )
148) Leavened Bread & alcoholic wine in the eucharist - the evidence of scripture would suggest the wine and bread were both unleavened. ( the mass )
149) Nepsis linked with Catharsis: Parallels could likely be made between nepsis and Jewish devekut. showing yet another Talmudic type root of Orthodox whoredom with religions. Both nepsis and catharsis have elements of truth but were systematized in links with monastic religious pretentions. ( monks ) ( gurus ) (Catholic)
150) Forbidding to interpret and have doctrines on the Book of Revelation - a clear attempt to hide from the Orthodox the evidence that Orthodoxy is a daughter of the Mother of Harlots. note... when Orthodoxy itself does interpret Revelation they seem to make one heresy after another - the woman in Rev 12 is Mary instead of Israel, they are amillennial, they claim the presence of incense in heaven means it is a divine directive to intoxicate church goers with clouds of it. ( eschatology )
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TOP 160.
151) The Canons of the Council of Nicea, and Nicene Creed (325) (and other Creeds) contain much heresy, yet are treated as if on a par with scripture.
( authority ) (LAW)
152) The church tradition (and thus infallible) that Cremation destroys the soul.
that any should could be annihilated is heresy, but this also denies Hitler (if he was cremated) escapes eternal punishment. ( tradition ) ( salvation ) ( death cult )
( burials )
153) Orthodox Christian (or Christian) should or must be buried in consecrated ground - and that the definition of that is that it is consecrated by all their Babylonian rituals. ( tradition ) ( salvation ) ( death cult ) ( burials )
154) False man made burial rites of no importance - according to the Orthodox rites and service of burial (Nekrosimos). (anything about funerals is an emotive issue). ( tradition ) ( salvation ) ( death cult ) ( burials )
155) The (so called) Church may deny a burial on Orthodox land to those who have committed a sin such as blasphemy, suicide, denial of their faith etc. In other words refusing to bury a person if he became a real Christian (for instance). Pure heresy and manipulation. What is more - if they deny mortal sin or "works of the flesh" and all sin is the same, why forbid burial in this way? ( tradition ) ( salvation ) ( death cult ) ( burials )
156) The ovum of Mary must definitely have been used in Christ's conception - so far as I understand Orthodoxy insists that you must believe that the actual ovum of Mary was used in the conception of Christ ( the prophecy quoting thy "seed" does not necessarily mean "her ovum") and not that his conception was entirely miraculous but in her womb without the ovum used. I am not denying her ovum was used, but I do question forcing young believers to form a definite doctrine on this. To them it is an essential or more central issue as to them the hypostatic union heals corporate human nature. The belief that Mary's ovum must be used is of less controversy as they do not believe in original sin, (Catholics believe the conception of Mary herself was miraculous). ( Mary ) ( salvation )
157) Beards and the clergy - so what are they actually saying? Only the clergy should have beards, or all Orthodox men? And is the old covenant law on beards still here, including not trimming the edges? It might be interesting to find out how many bishops of Rome had beards before the 1054 split. It is part of Messianic Judaism to keep these beard laws when the new testament calls the old law done away (2 Cor 3), and an emphasis on how the Orthodox have never understood the covenants of God. ( gurus ) ( LAW ) ( inverse Babylonization )
158) Ordination gives Authority to teach - Holy Spirit as our personal guide and teacher (Protestant / Evangelical) versus ordination. ( authority ) ( LAW )
159) Mystification of doctrine: - bible says to be clear. ( mystery babylon ) ( LAW ) ( inverse Babylonization )
160) The "laity" - Jesus says "you are all brethren". This is the root of Scofield's interpretation of Nicolaitan heresy which contains Nico - lording / power over - laitan (laos) - the laity, The Orthodox often say this was a sex cult started by the Nicholas of the bible (more forgery of history by them). ( inverse Babylonization )
( early cults - Laodicean ) ( authority )
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TOP 170.
161) The 7 Sins of Rome (Rev 18:1-24):
1) "The fruits that thy soul lusted after" - world wide trade in artefacts, and dainty and goodly things.
2) pretentious religious music, in the case of Orthodoxy (a daughter of Rome) this takes the form of chanting not singing. Chanting heresy is supposed to fool you into thinking it is holy. etc.
3) craftsman - idols, church finery etc
4) millstone - the mass bread
5) candle burning rituals
6) bride and groom - marriage falsely termed a sacrament
7) thy sorceries - the witchcraft of her heresies and practices.
162) It is an oxymoronic religion - (perhaps more than any other sect claiming to be Christian)
163) No work on Sunday?? - Catholics say you should not work on Sunday, except for a few exceptions they make, like perhaps doctors on call, or workers in an electrical power-plant etc. The Orthodox are more cagey on this and I have yet to extract a definitive answer. The (erroneous) doctrine is in effect treating Sunday as a "new sabbath" but less draconian. The Christian sabbath is eternal (Hebrews 4) earned for believers by Christ.
164) The Anathemas - (eg of the synod Constantinople): the heresy of declaring people anathema over calendar issues, but themselves bringing on themselves the anathema of God promised in Galatians 1:6-9 by preaching their false gospel of works and sacerdotalism.
165) Religious Colonialism by land buying.
LAND GRABBING
The church is the second-largest landowner in Greece, after the state, with about 130,000 hectares.
166) Infallible traditions of the church in general - be honest with yourself..... if just one of the criticisms I make on this website about Orthodoxy and traditions is true, then their entire "infallible church traditions" idea drops to pieces. It is an "infallible heresy".
167) Churches being autocephalous and non autocephalous - (of an Eastern Christian Church) appointing its own head, not subject to the authority of an external patriarch or archbishop. The Orthodox Church in America (OCA) for instance is not recognized as an autocephalous church. In Evangelicalism there is ONE church, that is the body of Christ. A bishop is not an overseer anywhere in the new testament of one or several countries. The Apostles were church planters and had special authority from God and Orthodoxy does not claim they are apostles.
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Angel heresies: x3.
168) That angels are superior in nature and intelligence to man - wrong as we are the sons of God, they are not.
169) Unprovable Angelic order (tagmata):
170) In the Orthodox worship, every Monday is dedicated to the angels.
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TOP 180.
171) Hank Hanegraaff and the Fifty Fifty Cult:
he preaches a mongrel Faith and is not put in his place. because of the sin of respect of persons
Hank Hanegraaff's apostasy from the Protestant Faith into Eastern Orthodoxy is of significance more because he is highlighting a new wave of heresy in the Orthodox religion, that might be best called "the fifty fifty cult" were the Orthodox do not exercise the discipline that is supposed to characterize their church, and allow people like Hank to preach a shape shifting new potpourri religion that is neither Evangelical, nor Orthodox. So just remember - every time you hear him preaching he is living proof of a lack of discipline in the Orthodoxy Faith (proof they are not in the Spirit in itself), and that they allow their novice proselytes to preach what amounts to a new fifty fifty cult that is neither Protestantism nor Eastern Orthodoxy just contradictory nonsense.
172) Mysticism. quote: "The premise of all mysticism is that experiential knowledge of God takes preference over doctrinal understanding of the character and being of God because of the transcendent nature of God. One of the ways mysticism gained a foothold in Eastern Orthodoxy was by the emphasis of certain Orthodox “Church Fathers” upon the “way of negation” also known as “apophatic”1 theology."
173) The strange tradition of "Crowning" in their marriage ceremony was probably introduced into their religion to let them say "Are we not all crowned when we marry" in order to justify their absurdly proud practice of putting crowns on bishop's heads.
174) Female deacons, nuns, abbesses etc, justified partly by their false believe several females they see as saints were "equal to the apostles". Women were anointed by the Spirit at Pentecost. that does not however mean they are to be deacons.
175) Liturgy and restriction of languages - Liturgies and "services" prior to the 9th century were in Greek only, the Catholics claim Latin (perhaps a division in the Empire halves, or.... someone among them is lying) only later other specific languages were introduced. This is worth researching as if its true two distinct languages were used it almost inevitably was a sign a rift would occur by 1054.
176) Sycophancy to political figures, kings and queens.
This sin has pervaded their faith to saturation level, from the days of the mass murderer Emperor Constantine, to the fawning of modern day Russians toward President Vladimir Putin. It is deadly heresy, as it is not the fulfilment of Romans 13 in that it does not so much recognize figures like Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar etc can be used by God just as the Assyrian were in Isaiah 10, but rather exalts these political figures to the level of David, Samson, Gideon or Joshua, which they never are.
177) Evolutionism is taught by many (under pressure from the state) they are cowards in the face of secular persecution. They are not put in their place for this and repudiated and disciplined. Chi;dren are being indoctrinated with illogical pseudoscience.
178) Homosexuality is accepted by many as "biblical" (under pressure from the state ) some of their bishops are cowards in the face of secular persecution, and are not being reprimanded and put in their place.
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179)
180) Giving babies and children alcohol.
132) +
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TOP 70.
Contentious Issues:
61) They deny Christ died as a substitute sacrifice .
The Evangelical and Protestant gospel is found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and Luke 24:44-48, and is belief in Christ crucified, buried and resurrected for salvation, repentance always being present to distinguish the belief as genuine. not some "mouthed prayer" or vain acceptance of the gift of salvation in Christ. it at no time includes the concept of "a substitute sacrifice". As the issue is therefore neutral to salvation (that is a person can choose to have no doctrine on it and be in a condition of salvation) is not an Orthodox heresy or error therefore to chose not to accept it, but what is an error and a heresy is their outright statement that salvation is not a gift earned solely by Jesus, and their technique of always presenting that theme of the Protestant gospel as inexorably connected to the theme of a substitute sacrifice (which it is not). ( salvation )
Hebrews tells us that "the blood of bulls and of goats cannot take away sin". Thus all the temple sacrifices of the old testament in the temple, and the yearly sacrifice for sins, could not take sin away in themselves other than by the mercy of Christ. The sacrifice of Christ himself however can take away sins, and REPLACES (or SUBSTITUTES) the clearly symbolic sacrifices of the old covenant that centre in the forgiving power of the blood of Jesus.
62) They deny Jesus was a ransom sacrifice .
Once again the Orthodox say the concept of "a ransom sacrifice" is inextricably linked with the Protestant / Evangelical "Jesus Saves Gospel", when as we have seen "the simplicity of the gospel of Christ" in I Cor 15:1-4, Luke 24:44-48, makes not mention of it, thus a doctrine on it is not necessary for salvation. This is tactic is adopted by Orthodoxy in order to cause confusion over the two diametric beliefs about this, that is
1) The ransom was paid to God.
2) The ransom was paid to Satan (as symbolically represented in the book "The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe"?)
And whether it is ever wise to add it to the gospel message at all. ( salvation )
note: The Orthodox falsely add both the "The substitute sacrifice" and "The ransom sacrifice" themes to the Protestant Gospel in order to cloud the central issue, that in Orthodoxy Jesus did not secure salvation for the believer in his death and resurrection, but it was only part of a synergy or "process of salvation". whereas in Protestantism he did secure our actual salvation, presented as "the gift of God" to the believer on belief.
63) They deny the imputation of the righteousness of Christ to the believer, and the concept of "The Lord our righteousness."
Again, this is not specifically mention in the "Jesus Saves Gospel". A new believer or "babe in Christ" does not have to specify a doctrine on this issue, to be in a present state of salvation through belief in (to "trust in" and "rely upon") Christ. Do I believe the only righteousness I have is that given me as a gift through Christ? And that his righteousness "exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees"? Yes. But I do not believe it is a specific doctrine to be believed or professed to be in a state of salvation, that is if you died then and there you would be saved by Christ because of his finished work on Calvary and his resurrection.
( salvation )
64) The descent into Hell of Christ, between his burial and resurrection (superfluous add on doctrine).
To keep the so called Catholic Faith and be saved, you must believe their view of the "descent into Hell." It seem to me they are actually adding this into their "process of salvation" but it needs more clarification about how many of them would say that. This difficult and convoluted subject is definitely (stress definitely) not to be added into the simplicity of the "Jesus Saves Gospel" though it occurs between the death and resurrection periods.
In the Protestant Faith there are references to this, but several entirely different interpretations about what "he descended into Hell" means. It includes sometimes the concept that Christ supposedly preached the gospel (before it was even completed) to those who died in the time of Noah, as if it was a "second chance for salvation".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_Hell (salvation )
Notably on the topic it is believed by many Protestants Jesus did not preach in Hell to those who died at the time of Noah, but, rather, that Jesus anointed Noah to preach at the time the Ark was being prepared.
65) 40 Day "Churching" of a baby - a mother is forced (via tradition) into bringing her child to church on the 40th Day after birth, to force the baby into attending their bogus religious services. in a warping of now "done away" law such as Luke 2:22-40 . This is connected with the indoctrination process described in Revelation 17. ( indoctrination ) ( salvation )
66) Economy, Economia - discretionary deviation from the letter of the law in order to adhere to the spirit of the law. Only bishops have such discretion,
It is an exceptionally, staggeringly serious doctrinal issue as the concept is used for instance:
1) to justify remarriage against the criteria of Matthew 5:32.
2) It may be used on the occasion of a conversion to Orthodoxy, in order to grant recognition to a baptism previously administered in a so called heterodox or schismatic church.
3) It may also be used to grant recognition to an ordination administered in a Roman Catholic or Anglican church if the convert comes from either of those communions.
A priestly form of this is in fact the basis of many controversial priest's decisions.
( doctrine ) ( sin )
67) Symphonia heresy - what this means in real terms. is that the church sees it as practical to compromise with the state in order to survive. Two modern examples of this are that huge numbers of Orthodox bishops compromise with the state (and police force) on the issues of homosexuality and evolutionism, and the so called hierarchy of Orthodoxy, including the Titular Head, turn a blind eye to this. (note - Catholic theologians hypothesise that this is how Orthodoxy was defiled by adulterous second marriage doctrines and practices)
( doctrine ) ( sin )
68) Many modern Orthodox consider the Pope "a bishop". Sorry but if it was not such a serious issue that would be a joke. The Pope is entirely an heretic.
( people ) ( salvation - suddenly not only Orthodoxy saves )
69) Graded churches -
In real terms the Orthodox Church splits churches into about 10 kind, with various attitudes to where the word "church" should be replaced by cult or sect, when in reality they are entirely a cult in themselves.
1) Grade A quality - Patriarchal Church (eg Constantinople)
2) Grade B quality - Autocephalous Church (Gr. "appointing its own leader") (eg Mount Athos) a church whose head bishop does not report to any higher-ranking bishop.
3) Grade C quality - Autonomous Church (Gr. "self-rule"). (eg Finland) governed by its prelate, who is chosen by a superior jurisdiction, usually by a patriarchate.
It appears to me both types of churches often claim to be self governed, but as autocephalous churches appoint their own head, and autonomous do not, the true higher ranking church would be logically autocephalous, within the perimeters of their own unbiblical extraneous criteria?
4) Grade D quality - Eparchy Churches non self-governing (eg. Philippines)
5) Grade E quality - Unrecognized Churches (eg Orthodox Church in America)
6) Grade F quality - Schismatic churches - (eg. Roman Catholic - to some)
7) Grade G quality - Schismatic isolationist churches -
8) Grade H quality - Heretic churches - (eg Roman Catholic - to others)
9) Grade I quality - Heretic isolationist churches -
10) Grade J quality - Lunatic fringe Orthodox cults . ( church )
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Some of the sins shared between the Orthodox and the Catholics:
71) Heathen Calendars are part of the Faith (worse than Catholics on this):
( doctrine ) ( sin )
72)
73) A Personal relationship Mary and saints ......with skeletons (dead unresurrected "people") spiritism. ( idolatry ) ( sin ) ( spiritism )
74) They kept the bible from the people for over 1,000 years - even after the Reformation presses started rolling, the Orthodox like the Catholics never gave bibles to the people in order to indoctrinate them instead. ( bible )
75) Idolizing or worshipping of the Nicene Creed : The creed is not fit for purpose, as it does not contain a specific gospel by which we are saved (however a "process of salvation" involving works and priestcraft is not present either - whereas the elements of the Protestant gospel are mentioned). ( idolatry ) ( sin )
76) Icons, statues and other idols . ( idolatry ) ( sin )
77) Shrines ( a separate issue proving their connection to eastern religions - thus Eastern Orthodoxy in their name) . ( idolatry ) ( sin )
78) That heresy is to contradict their fake church and man made traditions, not the bible and new covenant law . ( church ) ( sin ) ( bible ) ( doctrine )
79) Holy Orders - the issue of sacraments. ( sacraments ) ( doctrine )
80) Call no man father . ( people ) ( idolatry ) ( sin
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Churchianity errors :
81)
82) Calendarization of lifestyle by a plethora of "days".
( church ) ( worship ) ( churchianity ) ( sin )
83) Uniforms, crowns, mitres . one answer I was given by an Orthodox believer is that you can buy these crowns second hand on Ebay, and that they are only moderately expensive, and sometimes amount to only "bling" golden artifacts and crowns, not always real gold, only sometimes. I am not sure how the Orthodoxy faithful would react if they knew "the holy artifacts" are in fact often a chintzy show of tacky cheap imitations. ( churchianity ) ( authority ) ( sin )
84) Ritual / rite ridden . ( idolatry ) ( salvation ) ( churchianity ) ( sin )
( sorcery ) . (separate issue to Traditions - but part of it)
85) Fasting before men : So much fasting they are borderline vegan for about half the year! This really does fit in with the commandment not to say "Touch not! Taste not!" . Fast Wednesday and Friday just about all year, so they can disobey Christs commandment to fast in secret. ( churchianity ) ( hypocrisy )
86) Extraneous baptismal requirements / doctrines : (must believe heresy, and an avalanche of more insignificant doctrines "what doth now prevent me?") eg harrowing of hell and deny filioque . ( doctrine ) ( salvation )
87) Godparent indoctrinators . The parents are assigned the duty of indoctrinating their children, but so called "godparents" (found nowhere in scripture) are people assigned the same sinful task. This perhaps also serves as a way to fish outsiders into Orthodoxy by using babies and children to inveigle them into learning Orthodox doctrine. ( indoctrination ) ( people ) ( salvation )
88) Baby exorcisms - it is jaw dropping that anyone baptized into Orthodoxy goes through a plethora of rites amounting to witchcraft ceremonies, including casting Satan out of babies and children. Adult exorcism - where they will even stand on top of people "crushing satan under their feet" like something out the middle ages.
( abuse ) ( salvation - part of baptism and chrismation ceremony )
89) False new identity . when triple baptized into Orthodoxy the person is given a new name, and is given a personal patron saint, so they can calendarize your life on a personal level. A name day is the day on which an Orthodox Christian celebrates the feast of his patron saint. ( indoctrination ) ( sin )
90) Holy water power - the Orthodox believe so called holy water has powers to spiritually clean people and places, and cast out demons. They even do it to their own churches before a person is baptized to increase the impression of their bogus priestly powers. ( ritualism ) ( churchianity ) ( sin - fakery ) ( sorcery )
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TOP 100.
(being reorganized into salvation errors area - a more important topic)
Prayer heresies x10.
91) Praying for the dead . ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
92) The dead can pray for you ! ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
93) Praying to the dead . ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
94) Vain repetitions in prayer . the primary example is The Jesus Prayer,
( prayer ) ( meditation )
95) The Cycle of Prayer . ( prayer ) ( churchianity )
96) Mary as Co-Mediator, Co-Redemptrix, hears/answers millions .
( idolatry ) ( salvation )
97) Prayer Books - automated, manmade, pseudo Christian, systematized tomes of wayward religion. ( churchianity ) ( prayer ) ( salvation )
98) Hesychasm - the equivalent of Buddhist meditation. interesting also the Buddhist idea of becoming "at one" has similarities to theosis. ( spiritism ) ( meditation )
( salvation )
99) The prayer rope - the Orthodox answer to the rosary. ( prayer ) ( salvation )
100) Aerial Toll House prayers - to help dead souls be delivered from demonic attack, in the 40 decision period as to whether you go to "Abraham's Bosom" or torment part of "Hades", these prayers are connected to the 8 Day and the 40 Day memorial services. ( spiritism ) ( prayer ) ( salvation )
**) Men praying with head covered? = long hair breaks this (priest and monks have long hair to imitate gurus and bring "eastern" peoples into the faith, but the new covenant law forbids long hair, calling it a "shame"
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More prayer heresies.
101) All saints day - (spiritism) The Eastern Orthodox Church and associated Eastern Catholic Churches and Byzantine Lutheran Churches celebrate it on the first Sunday after Pentecost. ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
( churchianity )
102) The Communion of Saints . ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
( churchianity )
103) The Repose of souls of the dead ? (Memorial.) ( sorcery ) ( spiritism )
( salvation ) ( churchianity )
104) Priests, Bishops and monks having long hair - this is also technically a prayer error (head covering issues), but is an example of a sin that is not "a work of the flesh" that is to which damnation is promised. Priest and monks have long hair to imitate gurus and bring "eastern" peoples into the faith, but the new covenant law forbids long hair on men, calling it a "shame". Having long hair is not a work of the flesh, but the church strategy to imitate gurus to spiritually seduce Eastern converts into their religion is. Their hair is tied back to stop them looking like the vain creatures they really are.
105) They are wizards/witches performing witchcraft. ( sorcery ) ( spiritism )
Top 3 witches in the world according to Orthodoxy? :
( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation ) ( churchianity )
1) Number 1 Witch (top witch / wizard:) - Dimitrios Arhondonis
fake name - Bartholomew 1
title: Titular Head of Eastern Orthodoxy, Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople and Archbishop of Constantinople . primus inter pares (first among equals) called Head of the Eastern Orthodox Church (or Head of the Church - as they claim to be the only church).
2) Number 2 Witch - Vladimir Mikhailovich Gundyayev
fake name - Kirill
title: Patriarch of Moscow and all Russia, the Bishop of Moscow, primate of the Russian Orthodox Church.
3) Number 3 Witch - Jorge Mario Bergoglio
fake name: Pope Francis
title:- His Holiness, Francis, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God. called "Head of the Church" by Catholics.(pretender to being Head of the Church, according to Orthodoxy)
note: huge numbers of the Orthodox now see the Pope as a bishop, so he is one of the top witches / wizards because of the sheer numbers he lords it over and deceives.
106) Deliberately Clouding "The Weightier matters of the Law" - there is such a thing as "the law of the new covenant' (Gal 6:2) in opposition to the old (done away) Law of Moses. The new law has its centerpiece the "Two Commandments" and the old law had for its centerpiece the 10 Commandments. To hide their heresy the Pharisees of the Eastern Orthodox Church deliberately cloud the issue of what the weightier matters of the Law are, more minor issues like the position of the hand in the bogus sign of the cross, and The Filioque are relatively minor in comparison to adulterous remarriage, war (murder) and adding works to actual salvation as a root not a fruit. One should still teach "the least of these commandments" (Matthew 5:19) but they are not on the same level as "the fruit of the Spirit" (positive) or "the works of the flesh" (negative).
note: this heresy is inextricably linked to the heresy of denying the existence of "the works of the flesh" from more minor issues like eating black pudding, men with long hair, etc, but is distinctly a diverse heresy of subterfuge in itself.
( doctrine ) ( conceptual )
107) Spiritual Whoredom - calling the mass bread "God" and bowing to it is idolatry, idolatry with icons, shrines. Theosis etc. ( idolatry ) ( sacerdotalism)
108) Two gospels save. - Evangelicals do not say two gospels save, but the Orthodox do not have the courage to stick properly to their emphatic statement "salvation is found only in Orthodoxy" they then tell everyone they don't want to judge as to whether other people are saved or not. It is yet another oxymoron of theirs. The bible says there is only ONE salvation gospel, and anyone teaching another is anathema, under God's curse! The Orthodox synergy of salvation or process of salvation isn't it.
109) Council of Ephesus 430 Canon 6 decreed deposition from clerical office or excommunication for those who did not accept the Council's decrees.
110) Massive numbers of Traditions - ( forgery )
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TOP 120.
various (authority issues).
111) Orthodoxy is the most oxymoronic faith in the world - I intend to complete a long list of dozens of their oxymoronic doctrines, including that they are pacifist killers, and believe in salvation by grace and works etc. ( doctrine )
112) Heresy of swearing oaths . ( doctrine ) ( sin )
113) Ruled over by Pharisees . ( people )
114) The Forgery of History - forgery includes liturgies, traditional stories of peoples lives, historians making things up, : ( forgery )
115) Incense thuribles - (giddy) ( churchianity ) ( sorcery ) ( sorcery item )
116) Fake miracles - holy fire is just one, myrrh dripping icons etc. Only a gullible person who passes of credulity for faith would believe in them.
( forgery / fakery / sorcery ) ( sin ) ( fraud )
117) Bogus hierarchy / pyramid system : - ( churchianity ) ( people )
118) Orthodox false prophets (as well as teachers) - ( people ) ( bible )
( Pentecostalism )
119) Ecumenicalism - (division over this) The moment millions of the Orthodox turned to being Ecumenical, the moment they accepted another "process of salvation saves". in other words they have two gospels, and if all the Popes were not "anathema" before that as they declared, their profession their church is infallible failed. ( salvation )
( people ) ( church )
120) Their version of the Talmud = the giant tomes of irrelevant dumb writings by a plethora of pillarists, hermits, bogus saints and the like, whose unimportant writings they exalt to being on a par with holy writ, including such as prayer books. ( bible ) ( forgery / fakery)
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Refuting the heresies of the Eastern Orthodox Church.
ALL 200 HERESIES.
TOP 10.
under construction sorry.....
(big changes will soon occur on this list as I attempt to list the heresies under topics, such as "Sacerdotalism" etc)
1) They deny the Holy Trinity - Theosis heresy 1. Theosis denies the Trinity, they have a different God. Theosis involves becoming united with God himself, not in a metaphor, but in reality, and their theological excuses that it is unity with God in energia (not in ousia) does not negate the blasphemy.
You will see later that I say Orthodox Theology is far more movable and indistinct in doctrine than Catholicism, and this topic is becoming such a total embarrassment to Orthodoxy they are starting to "manoeuvre" the concept of Theosis away from unity with God himself. Once we get them swapping and changing like that their whole house of cards will eventually fall over.
Theosis heresy 2 -the other evil doctrine regarding Theosis is in effect making sanctification and spiritual growth into part of a process that contributes to actual salvation. (see later in the list of salvation errors) and is therefore also turning a fruit of salvation into a root of salvation, this time this time not so much works, rather Christian maturity and sanctification.
2) A fake bible . ( bible ) They translate the old Testament from the LXX Greek, and add clearly bogus books such as "Bel and the Dragon" to their canon of scripture, in fact "Bel and the Dragon" is so clearly fake it proves the Protestants chose the correct canon not them or the Popes.
3) They deny Sola Scriptura . ( bible )
4) That Orthodoxy is even a church . ( church )
5) That the Orthodox Church is Infallible . ( church )
6) The Titular Head - the Orthodox Pope . ( people )
7) They have a sacreligious attitude toward the Holy Ghost . ( sins ) One horrible example is as follows - before entering a sermon about Orthodox heresy passed off as truth, in a blasé fashion Orthodox preachers repeat the Trinitarian Formula before they do, as if that makes their heresy somehow holy. Make no mistake about it - you do not dare to use the name of the Holy Ghost in a casual or nonchalant way to verify or give a sound of authority to doctrinal error. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is described in scripture as unforgivable, as distinct from the other sin of grieving the Holy Spirit. An example of a Protestant doing this is Benny Hinn, who uses the name of the Holy Spirit in the same blasé fashion to give credibility to his entirely fake miracles.
8) They deny literal Everlasting Hell fire . ( doctrine )
9) Murder and violence. They believe in killing in wars. Yet pretend to be pacifist . ( sins )
( murder )
In the new and better covenant it is murder to kill in wars. if the Orthodox are pacifist, why do they give communion to the hundreds of thousands of soldiers in their churches? In fact why don't they excommunicate them for believing in murder? Orthodoxy is the most oxymoronic Faith in the world. They have dozens of such complete oxymoronic doctrines. (as I believe the 3 main heresies of modern Protestantism are war, adultery by second marriage {it was not always the case} and fake Alexandrian modern bibles, I feel it necessary to put murder in the Top 10 of Orthodoxy). This includes Historical proof of capital punishment, and mutilation of "heretics" and "sinners", yet claim to be pacifist. Also assaults on those "possessed by devils" or "the devil". ( sin )
10) Traditions of men . The great identifying characteristic of the fake religion called Judaism, that resulted in the Talmud, the multiplying of man made ideas has results in an Orthodox Talmud of human Traditions usurping authority over The Word of God, declare infallible by God himself. It results also into the "strange fire" heresy of the sons of Aaron.
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TOP 20 . Mariolatry .
They say Mary has the attributes of God.
This leads to both the overt and the covert worship of Mary, and multiple
Mary heresies. There are so many heresies about Mary to prove this, but I will give here just 10 which should suffice:
11) Mary gives grace to believers for salvation. Saving grace comes from God alone.
12) Mary is a mediator between God and man. The bible says "there is one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus".
13) They Pray to Mary (an act of worship).
14) They say Mary can hear millions of prayers and answer them, something only God can do, giving her superhuman powers,
15) The Dormition - that is Mary Floated up to heaven after she died,
16) Theotokos means "God bearer" and to be fair does not mean the identical same thing as the RC heresy of calling her "Mother of God", but some, especially ecumenical Orthodox believers, do call her the mother of God,
17) They make icons of Mary, which become objects of idolatry., and they pray toward icons of Mary.
18) Mary never had "original sin", and was sinless. - another superhuman attribute. (however Orthodoxy deny original sin and believe a separate concept of ancestral sin).
19) The perpetual virginity of Mary. Jesus had brothers and sisters.
20) That Mary is the Queen of Heaven. Total idolatry. They sometimes say she was Crowned "Queen of Heaven" in Revelation 12. (an heretical interpretation). This is sometimes called "Mary Regina"
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SORTING AREA
11) The Orthodox Church is nothing like the original church . ( church )
12) The multiplying of religious rites . ( general ) duplicated X
13) Clockwork "worship" by rote in the Liturgy - a separate sin from the sacerdotalist aspect of the Orthodoxy Liturgy, it is not "in the Spirit" worship. Frankly it is a long, boring showing off of their entirely fake priestly powers.
( blasphemy ) ( church ) ( churchianity )
15) Prostration, and bowing - two different though similar errors, at various times signifying idolatry, or subjection to fake clergy. ( idolatry )
16) Banning women from the entire Mount Athos Peninsula - sexist and discrimination (such discrimination should be made illegal by Greek Government).
17) Anathema ceremonies - complete with lines of priests swinging thuribles in tandem.
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20)
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TOP 30 . Top 20 Sacerdotalism heresies (in 2 parts).
The Orthodox have 4 Saviours not one, 1) Jesus, 2) Priestcraft 3) Works 4) Mary and Saints.
Part 1:
31) A false "Gospel by which we are saved" - as it is a synergy, " the process of salvation". They in effect have no Gospel at all.
32) That salvation is found only in Orthodoxy : ( salvation )
33) Apostolic Succession . ( people ) This is part of the sacerdotalist heresy as it states the pseudo "powers" to become a vehicle to "impart grace" to believers by priestcraft are a hand-me-down powers.
34) Metousiosis - or "holy cannibalism" . ( sacerdotal )
35) Chrismation . ( sacerdotal )
36) Triple Baptism . ( sacerdotal )
37) Epiklesis - is a different thing than metousiosis (the Orthodox version of transubstantiation) but is always connected to it. It is the invocation of the Holy Ghost to partake in the witchcraft of the blasphemy of the mass.
( sacerdotal ) ( salvation ) ( sin )
38) The Divine Liturgy . ( the sacerdotal aspect )
39) Born Again - heretical definition . ( salvation )
40) They are (therefore) not part of the new and better covenant - by denying the whole process of being born again, and writing on the hearts of men literally thousands of traditions of men not the law of the new and better covenant that makes the first old (they also cherry pick old testament concepts into those traditions).
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TOP 40: Top 20 Sacerdotalism heresies (in 2 parts).
Part 2:
41) Ordination - linked to the heresy of Apostolic succession, yet in itself a separate heresy, you cannot be a church minister in Orthodoxy except through rituals performed by their inner circle (similar to freemasonry). As you cannot be saved without these fake priests, "salvation power" is supposed to be a passed down power, and a teacher cannot in their view simply be brought forward through the Holy Spirit, you must have "churchianity credentials".
If God draws and converts a soul he wishes to preach revival in a backslidden area or nation, he is a minister of God by simply his spiritual maturity and anointing of God, he does not have to be "ordained" by the very sinners who need revival and sermons preaching to. ( people ) ( sacerdotal ) ( salvation )
42) Priests forgive sins - (forgiveness obtained only in the presence of a priest or bishop) : including individual confession (but not inside a box) and that of the entire congregation. ( sacerdotal ) ( salvation )
43) Penances - handed out by priests . ( sacerdotal ) ( salvation )
44) Child confession to priests . ( sacerdotal ) ( salvation ) (children)
45) False Christs - They say they "become a Christ" in Chrismation! ( sin )
46) Eastern Orthodox Prayer of Absolution for the dead : ( prayer )
( sacerdotal ) & Orthodox Extreme Unction or "The Last Rites". as distinct from simply anointing the sick with oil when praying, which happens in many Protestant churches.
( sacerdotal ) ( salvation )
47) Catechumen (differs from Catholicism) . ( sacerdotal ) ( salvation )
For me, this subject is one of the strongest proofs Orthodoxy is false. To get to become Orthodox by conversion from another church usually takes about a year if all goes smoothly, and only then you are triple baptized and chrismated to "become" regenerated, or born again. Jesus emphatically stated you cannot see or enter the kingdom of God unless you are. This proves emphatically the Orthodoxy idea of both how to be born again, and when this can or does happen, are nonsense, as you are in a queue to get saved thus in a state of damnation for a year or two.
"And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If you believe with all your heart, you may. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God." Acts 8:36-37.
In Eastern Orthodox you must prove you believe a toxic inventory of their false doctrines before you can be baptized (not that baptism makes you born again in the first place). Just the delay alone would be proof enough their church is false if a person was "born again" through baptism.
48) a 2nd Priesthood offering up physical sacrifices : ( salvation ) Nicolaitanism.
49) the meaning of GRACE changed :
Protestant - Grace = unmerited favour (Eph 2:6-9 & Romans 11:6) as proven in a rock solid way in scripture. The very word proves Orthodox salvation false.
Orthodox - Grace = the salvivic energies of God, which supposedly just happened to be transmitted to mankind through priestcraft via their priests in communion, baptism, chrismation, etc. ( salvation )
50) The multiplying of sacraments . ( salvation ) when realizing set in among early heretics that falsely making the two real sacraments (baptism and communion) into part of actual salvation, exalted them into a position of "power over the laity", they began to invent a long list of other things renamed as sacraments to increase the perception of their priestly powers.
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TOP 50:
10 proofs that Eastern Orthodoxy is a Sex Cult.
51) They commit Adultery by misinterpreting "porneia" in Matthew 5:32 as post marital adultery and a legitimate reason to divorce and remarry: It is in fact polygamy or bigamy to do this.
a) "porneia" in Matthew 5:32 misinterpreted as also including post marital adultery.
note:
The Catholics on the other hand rightly state it is impossible in context that this word includes postmarital adultery, and means fornication, example: such as a woman who claims to be a maiden discovered not to be before consummation on the marriage bed.
Catholics refuse communion to divorcees who remarry, the Orthodox do not.
52) They commit Adultery by the rule of "economy" (oikonomia): It is in fact also polygamy or bigamy to do this.
b) By the doctrine of "economy". They allow remarriage for many other reasons centering around the concept of "no love or commitment in the marriage"
for these remarriages there is even a second separate special kind of service, quote:
"The Order of the Second or Third Marriage (service) is somewhat different than that celebrated as a first marriage and it bears a penitential character."
53) "He causes her to commit adultery". A separate sin from adultery by divorce and remarriage,
54) No marriage vows - marriage vows are not "swearing oaths" . They do not want to make an oath marriage is for life because their fake church is gangrenous with adultery by second marriage.
note: do the Orthodox say that in the time period up until 1054 their supposedly "united church" had no marriage vows anywhere? And that it was only after the 1054 split the Catholics "fell into error" by inventing marriage vows???
55) Adultery justified under Antinomianism (that is - as if the allowing of remarriage by priests somehow nullifies adultery from being a 'work of the flesh" to which damnation is promised to all who do not repent.)
56) That Marriage is a sacrament.
57) Invested Authority to marry a couple: doctrinally rendering all other children in non Orthodox marriages bastards.
58) Celibacy of the clergy: but not identical to Roman Catholicism, Married clergy cannot remarry after death of the spouse: a further heresy, and the widow of a priest cannot remarry but becomes a celibate , Clergy Widow and widowers cannot remarry.
59) They do not properly teach to keep virginity before marriage.
By heretically interpreting "porneia" in Matthew 5:32 as including post marital adultery, this removes the definite directive/teaching of preservation of virginity before marriage, by making the word include postmarital sins.
60) Giving your daughter in marriage: Until more recent times, the Orthodox had a history of forced marriages. Emancipation was not "a tradition" quite the opposite. In a biblical true new covenant marriage a woman chooses her own husband. If their faith was really the true church they would not have had this anachronism, The Orthodox say their traditions are simply right. This would be a clear wrong one. They want to sweep about 1,500 years of getting it wrong under the carpet and pretend it never occurred. If their faith was real the fight for female emancipation would never have had to be fought in all Orthodox countries - but the opposite is the case.
**) RESEARCH - did the Orthodox ever execute adulterers? Henry VIII and Calvin believed in doing this, never grasping John 8:7.
**) Unbiblical annulments of marriages (like Catholicism) ?
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(Other distinctly Orthodox) .
41) Grave desecration & Funeral extortion racket .
It would be insensitive to the extreme heartbreak felt by those who are bereaved about the death of loved ones, not to specify clearly that these are two separate sins of Eastern Orthodoxy. Digging up dead people's bones is emotionally devastating to the relatives, and the other sin of using burials to make cash is equally obnoxious, and fulfills the scripture: "Which devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayers: these shall receive greater damnation." Mark 12:40 . ( death ) ( extortion ) ( sin )
42) Ancestral sin : ( doctrine ) the heresy of semi-pelagianism .
**) That the sin of mankind was purged in the incarnation (thus not Calvary). note...... discuss also "by his stripes we are healed"
43) No mortal sin (works of the flesh) : ( sin ) ( doctrine )
44) Filioque issues : ( Godhead ) ( doctrine )
45) Long haired priests (Gurus not Christians) - ( people ) ( tradition )
46) The Jesus Prayer - Vain repetitions in prayer . this being the the primary example. ( prayer ) ( meditation )
47) Exorcisms of babies : (children)
48) No singing or music, chanting only, no sitting down . ( churchianity )
50) The Miracle of Holy Fire . ( ritualism ) ( fakery ) ( sin ) ( churchianity )
( tradition )
Absolution prayer
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TOP 60.
Other Orthodox Salvation errors .
51) Salvation by Works . ( salvation )
52) That Jesus earned the resurrection of the just and the unjust (not simply the salvation component of resurrection). In other words Orthodoxy believes Jesus died to resurrect the damned (and thus to burn billions of people in Hell). ( salvation )
53) Repentance "saves" . - A deep point of theology, often misunderstood even by Evangelicals and Protestants, is that repentance does not "save". Jesus saves. Repentance is the quality indicator of belief. ( salvation )
54) Salvation by sin : (the "strange fire" error committed by the two sons of Levi - see Lev 10:1-2.). Some of the things they say are works aiding in the process of salvation are actually sins. like vain repetition of prayer, doing works before men, and priestcraft acts etc etc etc, Thus..... "sin helps save you!". ( salvation )
55) Theosis - mentioned first here as an attack on the doctrine of the Holy Trinity (thus the no.1 heresy), it is also heresy in its substance (not just its consequence) as a warped amalgam of sanctification and spiritual growth in Christ, then made into part of salvation itself in a "process" or "synergy" of salvation, when such issues are a fruit of salvation (Protestant), not a root of salvation (Catholic / Orthodox) The Devil or Lucifer in Isaiah 14 is the first to believe in Theosis, and he then tried to convince Eve she would be a goddess in Eden. In their desperation to justify themselves the Orthodox now like to fancifully imagine that Catholics and many Protestant believe in it to, hoping some people at least with "buy their lie", when they are just living in denial about how utterly warped and particular to them the heresy is. John 17:21 is just a reference to the metaphor of the church being "the body of Christ" not that we all achieve Theosis. ( the Godhead ) ( salvation )
56) Ethereal Toll Houses & salvation . Two issues here, firstly that after death you are not in a state of salvation or damnation according to Orthodoxy, but must face a series of temptation by demons in houses along the way to a place termed Abraham's Bosom, the passing of such tests contributing to actual salvation, and secondly that prayers of the Orthodox and dead saints help the travelling departed soul to pass these tests and temptations and thus yet again contribute to actual salvation of their own soul - see further down this list in prayer section. (see Prayer and Salvation) (contrast Purgatory) (Hell) part of salvation by works.
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PRAYER ISSUES & ACTUAL SALVATION
(that is as a root not a fruit of salvation):
note: prayers actually aiding in the false concept of "the process of salvation". Here are 10 examples (there are probably several more).
91) Praying for the dead . ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
92) The dead can pray for you ! ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
93) Praying to the dead . ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
94) Mary as Co-Mediator, Co-Redemptrix, hears/answers millions, giving of grace that contributes to salvation.
( idolatry ) ( salvation )
95) Hesychasm - the equivalent of Buddhist meditation. interesting also the Buddhist idea of becoming "at one" has similarities to theosis. ( spiritism ) ( meditation )
( salvation ) Some Orthodox say Hesychasm is part of Theosis, thus part of salvation.
96) Aerial Toll House prayers - to help dead souls be delivered from demonic attack, in the 40 decision period as to whether you go to "Abraham's Bosom" or torment part of "Hades", these prayers are connected to the 8 Day and the 40 Day memorial services. ( spiritism ) ( prayer ) ( salvation )
97) All saints day quote - "a time to pray for departed souls." - (spiritism) The Eastern Orthodox Church and associated Eastern Catholic Churches and Byzantine Lutheran Churches celebrate it on the first Sunday after Pentecost. ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
( churchianity )
98) The Communion of Saints = including quote "the intercession of the saints in heaven with God (“the church triumphant”); the dead who were not yet perfected (“the church suffering”) were also believed to be the beneficiaries of prayers said in their behalf. Major Protestant Reformers, wishing to reaffirm the unique mediatory role of Jesus Christ, denied the intercessory role of the saints and viewed the communion of saints as all believers in Christ." . ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
( churchianity )
see Britannica - https://www.britannica.com/topic/communion-of-saints
99) The Repose of souls of the dead
The practice of offering prayers and the Orthodox Mass to help achieve "the repose" of the soul of the deceased (Memorial.) ( sorcery ) ( spiritism )
( salvation ) ( churchianity )
100) The Orthodox Prayer of Absolution for the Dead : quote:
Prayer of Absolution for the dead:
quote: "this my spiritual child, N., is absolved, through me, unworthy though I be, from all things wherein, as mortal, he (she) hath sinned against God, whether in word, or deed, or thought, and with all his (her) senses, whether voluntarily or involuntarily, whether wittingly or through ignorance....etc"
OTHER PRAYER ISSUES:
note: prayers actually aiding in the false concept of "the process of salvation"
97) Prayer Books - automated, manmade, pseudo Christian, systematized tomes of wayward religion. ( churchianity ) ( prayer ) ( salvation )
99) The prayer rope - the Orthodox answer to the rosary. ( prayer ) ( salvation )
95) The Cycle of Prayer (daily, and yearly) . ( prayer ) ( churchianity )
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Contentious Issues:
61) They deny Christ died as a substitute sacrifice .
The Evangelical and Protestant gospel is found in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and Luke 24:44-48, and is belief in Christ crucified, buried and resurrected for salvation, repentance always being present to distinguish the belief as genuine. not some "mouthed prayer" or vain acceptance of the gift of salvation in Christ. it at no time includes the concept of "a substitute sacrifice". As the issue is therefore neutral to salvation (that is a person can choose to have no doctrine on it and be in a condition of salvation) is not an Orthodox heresy or error therefore to chose not to accept it, but what is an error and a heresy is their outright statement that salvation is not a gift earned solely by Jesus, and their technique of always presenting that theme of the Protestant gospel as inexorably connected to the theme of a substitute sacrifice (which it is not). ( salvation )
Hebrews tells us that "the blood of bulls and of goats cannot take away sin". Thus all the temple sacrifices of the old testament in the temple, and the yearly sacrifice for sins, could not take sin away in themselves other than by the mercy of Christ. The sacrifice of Christ himself however can take away sins, and REPLACES (or SUBSTITUTES) the clearly symbolic sacrifices of the old covenant that centre in the forgiving power of the blood of Jesus.
62) They deny Jesus was a ransom sacrifice .
Once again the Orthodox say the concept of "a ransom sacrifice" is inextricably linked with the Protestant / Evangelical "Jesus Saves Gospel", when as we have seen "the simplicity of the gospel of Christ" in I Cor 15:1-4, Luke 24:44-48, makes not mention of it, thus a doctrine on it is not necessary for salvation. This is tactic is adopted by Orthodoxy in order to cause confusion over the two diametric beliefs about this, that is
1) The ransom was paid to God.
2) The ransom was paid to Satan (as symbolically represented in the book "The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe"?)
And whether it is ever wise to add it to the gospel message at all. ( salvation )
note: The Orthodox falsely add both the "The substitute sacrifice" and "The ransom sacrifice" themes to the Protestant Gospel in order to cloud the central issue, that in Orthodoxy Jesus did not secure salvation for the believer in his death and resurrection, but it was only part of a synergy or "process of salvation". whereas in Protestantism he did secure our actual salvation, presented as "the gift of God" to the believer on belief.
63) They deny the imputation of the righteousness of Christ to the believer, and the concept of "The Lord our righteousness."
Again, this is not specifically mention in the "Jesus Saves Gospel". A new believer or "babe in Christ" does not have to specify a doctrine on this issue, to be in a present state of salvation through belief in (to "trust in" and "rely upon") Christ. Do I believe the only righteousness I have is that given me as a gift through Christ? And that his righteousness "exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees"? Yes. But I do not believe it is a specific doctrine to be believed or professed to be in a state of salvation, that is if you died then and there you would be saved by Christ because of his finished work on Calvary and his resurrection.
( salvation )
64) The descent into Hell of Christ, between his burial and resurrection (superfluous add on doctrine).
To keep the so called Catholic Faith and be saved, you must believe their view of the "descent into Hell." It seem to me they are actually adding this into their "process of salvation" but it needs more clarification about how many of them would say that. This difficult and convoluted subject is definitely (stress definitely) not to be added into the simplicity of the "Jesus Saves Gospel" though it occurs between the death and resurrection periods.
In the Protestant Faith there are references to this, but several entirely different interpretations about what "he descended into Hell" means. It includes sometimes the concept that Christ supposedly preached the gospel (before it was even completed) to those who died in the time of Noah, as if it was a "second chance for salvation".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrowing_of_Hell (salvation )
Notably on the topic it is believed by many Protestants Jesus did not preach in Hell to those who died at the time of Noah, but, rather, that Jesus anointed Noah to preach at the time the Ark was being prepared.
65) 40 Day "Churching" of a baby - a mother is forced (via tradition) into bringing her child to church on the 40th Day after birth, to force the baby into attending their bogus religious services. in a warping of now "done away" law such as Luke 2:22-40 . This is connected with the indoctrination process described in Revelation 17. ( indoctrination ) ( salvation )
66) Economy, Economia - discretionary deviation from the letter of the law in order to adhere to the spirit of the law. Only bishops have such discretion,
It is an exceptionally, staggeringly serious doctrinal issue as the concept is used for instance:
1) to justify remarriage against the criteria of Matthew 5:32.
2) It may be used on the occasion of a conversion to Orthodoxy, in order to grant recognition to a baptism previously administered in a so called heterodox or schismatic church.
3) It may also be used to grant recognition to an ordination administered in a Roman Catholic or Anglican church if the convert comes from either of those communions.
A priestly form of this is in fact the basis of many controversial priest's decisions.
( doctrine ) ( sin )
67) Symphonia heresy - what this means in real terms. is that the church sees it as practical to compromise with the state in order to survive. Two modern examples of this are that huge numbers of Orthodox bishops compromise with the state (and police force) on the issues of homosexuality and evolutionism, and the so called hierarchy of Orthodoxy, including the Titular Head, turn a blind eye to this. (note - Catholic theologians hypothesise that this is how Orthodoxy was defiled by adulterous second marriage doctrines and practices)
( doctrine ) ( sin )
68) Many modern Orthodox consider the Pope "a bishop". Sorry but if it was not such a serious issue that would be a joke. The Pope is entirely an heretic.
( people ) ( salvation - suddenly not only Orthodoxy saves )
69) Graded churches -
In real terms the Orthodox Church splits churches into about 10 kind, with various attitudes to where the word "church" should be replaced by cult or sect, when in reality they are entirely a cult in themselves.
1) Grade A quality - Patriarchal Church (eg Constantinople)
2) Grade B quality - Autocephalous Church (Gr. "appointing its own leader") (eg Mount Athos) a church whose head bishop does not report to any higher-ranking bishop.
3) Grade C quality - Autonomous Church (Gr. "self-rule"). (eg Finland) governed by its prelate, who is chosen by a superior jurisdiction, usually by a patriarchate.
It appears to me both types of churches often claim to be self governed, but as autocephalous churches appoint their own head, and autonomous do not, the true higher ranking church would be logically autocephalous, within the perimeters of their own unbiblical extraneous criteria?
4) Grade D quality - Eparchy Churches non self-governing (eg. Philippines)
5) Grade E quality - Unrecognized Churches (eg Orthodox Church in America)
6) Grade F quality - Schismatic churches - (eg. Roman Catholic - to some)
7) Grade G quality - Schismatic isolationist churches -
8) Grade H quality - Heretic churches - (eg Roman Catholic - to others)
9) Grade I quality - Heretic isolationist churches -
10) Grade J quality - Lunatic fringe Orthodox cults . ( church )
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TOP 80.
Some of the sins shared between the Orthodox and the Catholics:
71) Heathen Calendars are part of the Faith (worse than Catholics on this):
( doctrine ) ( sin )
72)
73) A Personal relationship Mary and saints ......with skeletons (dead unresurrected "people") spiritism. ( idolatry ) ( sin ) ( spiritism )
74) They kept the bible from the people for over 1,000 years - even after the Reformation presses started rolling, the Orthodox like the Catholics never gave bibles to the people in order to indoctrinate them instead. ( bible )
75) Idolizing or worshipping of the Nicene Creed : The creed is not fit for purpose, as it does not contain a specific gospel by which we are saved (however a "process of salvation" involving works and priestcraft is not present either - whereas the elements of the Protestant gospel are mentioned). ( idolatry ) ( sin )
76) Icons, statues and other idols . ( idolatry ) ( sin )
77) Shrines ( a separate issue proving their connection to eastern religions - thus Eastern Orthodoxy in their name) . ( idolatry ) ( sin )
78) That heresy is to contradict their fake church and man made traditions, not the bible and new covenant law . ( church ) ( sin ) ( bible ) ( doctrine )
79) Holy Orders - the issue of sacraments. ( sacraments ) ( doctrine )
80) Call no man father . ( people ) ( idolatry ) ( sin
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TOP 90.
Churchianity errors :
81)
82) Calendarization of lifestyle by a plethora of "days".
( church ) ( worship ) ( churchianity ) ( sin )
83) Uniforms, crowns, mitres . one answer I was given by an Orthodox believer is that you can buy these crowns second hand on Ebay, and that they are only moderately expensive, and sometimes amount to only "bling" golden artifacts and crowns, not always real gold, only sometimes. I am not sure how the Orthodoxy faithful would react if they knew "the holy artifacts" are in fact often a chintzy show of tacky cheap imitations. ( churchianity ) ( authority ) ( sin )
84) Ritual / rite ridden . ( idolatry ) ( salvation ) ( churchianity ) ( sin )
( sorcery ) . (separate issue to Traditions - but part of it)
85) Fasting before men : So much fasting they are borderline vegan for about half the year! This really does fit in with the commandment not to say "Touch not! Taste not!" . Fast Wednesday and Friday just about all year, so they can disobey Christs commandment to fast in secret. ( churchianity ) ( hypocrisy )
86) Extraneous baptismal requirements / doctrines : (must believe heresy, and an avalanche of more insignificant doctrines "what doth now prevent me?") eg harrowing of hell and deny filioque . ( doctrine ) ( salvation )
87) Godparent indoctrinators . The parents are assigned the duty of indoctrinating their children, but so called "godparents" (found nowhere in scripture) are people assigned the same sinful task. This perhaps also serves as a way to fish outsiders into Orthodoxy by using babies and children to inveigle them into learning Orthodox doctrine. ( indoctrination ) ( people ) ( salvation )
88) Baby exorcisms - it is jaw dropping that anyone baptized into Orthodoxy goes through a plethora of rites amounting to witchcraft ceremonies, including casting Satan out of babies and children. Adult exorcism - where they will even stand on top of people "crushing satan under their feet" like something out the middle ages.
( abuse ) ( salvation - part of baptism and chrismation ceremony )
89) False new identity . when triple baptized into Orthodoxy the person is given a new name, and is given a personal patron saint, so they can calendarize your life on a personal level. A name day is the day on which an Orthodox Christian celebrates the feast of his patron saint. ( indoctrination ) ( sin )
90) Holy water power - the Orthodox believe so called holy water has powers to spiritually clean people and places, and cast out demons. They even do it to their own churches before a person is baptized to increase the impression of their bogus priestly powers. ( ritualism ) ( churchianity ) ( sin - fakery ) ( sorcery )
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TOP 100.
(being reorganized into salvation errors area - a more important topic)
Prayer heresies x10.
91) Praying for the dead . ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
92) The dead can pray for you ! ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
93) Praying to the dead . ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
94) Vain repetitions in prayer . the primary example is The Jesus Prayer,
( prayer ) ( meditation )
95) The Cycle of Prayer . ( prayer ) ( churchianity )
96) Mary as Co-Mediator, Co-Redemptrix, hears/answers millions .
( idolatry ) ( salvation )
97) Prayer Books - automated, manmade, pseudo Christian, systematized tomes of wayward religion. ( churchianity ) ( prayer ) ( salvation )
98) Hesychasm - the equivalent of Buddhist meditation. interesting also the Buddhist idea of becoming "at one" has similarities to theosis. ( spiritism ) ( meditation )
( salvation )
99) The prayer rope - the Orthodox answer to the rosary. ( prayer ) ( salvation )
100) Aerial Toll House prayers - to help dead souls be delivered from demonic attack, in the 40 decision period as to whether you go to "Abraham's Bosom" or torment part of "Hades", these prayers are connected to the 8 Day and the 40 Day memorial services. ( spiritism ) ( prayer ) ( salvation )
**) Men praying with head covered? = long hair breaks this (priest and monks have long hair to imitate gurus and bring "eastern" peoples into the faith, but the new covenant law forbids long hair, calling it a "shame"
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TOP 110.
More prayer heresies.
101) All saints day - (spiritism) The Eastern Orthodox Church and associated Eastern Catholic Churches and Byzantine Lutheran Churches celebrate it on the first Sunday after Pentecost. ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
( churchianity )
102) The Communion of Saints . ( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation )
( churchianity )
103) The Repose of souls of the dead ? (Memorial.) ( sorcery ) ( spiritism )
( salvation ) ( churchianity )
104) Priests, Bishops and monks having long hair - this is also technically a prayer error (head covering issues), but is an example of a sin that is not "a work of the flesh" that is to which damnation is promised. Priest and monks have long hair to imitate gurus and bring "eastern" peoples into the faith, but the new covenant law forbids long hair on men, calling it a "shame". Having long hair is not a work of the flesh, but the church strategy to imitate gurus to spiritually seduce Eastern converts into their religion is. Their hair is tied back to stop them looking like the vain creatures they really are.
105) They are wizards/witches performing witchcraft. ( sorcery ) ( spiritism )
Top 3 witches in the world according to Orthodoxy? :
( sorcery ) ( spiritism ) ( salvation ) ( churchianity )
1) Number 1 Witch (top witch / wizard:) - Dimitrios Arhondonis
fake name - Bartholomew 1
title: Titular Head of Eastern Orthodoxy, Ecumenical Patriarch of Constantinople and Archbishop of Constantinople . primus inter pares (first among equals) called Head of the Eastern Orthodox Church (or Head of the Church - as they claim to be the only church).
2) Number 2 Witch - Vladimir Mikhailovich Gundyayev
fake name - Kirill
title: Patriarch of Moscow and all Russia, the Bishop of Moscow, primate of the Russian Orthodox Church.
3) Number 3 Witch - Jorge Mario Bergoglio
fake name: Pope Francis
title:- His Holiness, Francis, Bishop of Rome, Vicar of Jesus Christ, Successor of the Prince of the Apostles, Supreme Pontiff of the Universal Church, Primate of Italy, Archbishop and Metropolitan of the Roman Province, Sovereign of the Vatican City State, Servant of the servants of God. called "Head of the Church" by Catholics.(pretender to being Head of the Church, according to Orthodoxy)
note: huge numbers of the Orthodox now see the Pope as a bishop, so he is one of the top witches / wizards because of the sheer numbers he lords it over and deceives.
106) Deliberately Clouding "The Weightier matters of the Law" - there is such a thing as "the law of the new covenant' (Gal 6:2) in opposition to the old (done away) Law of Moses. The new law has its centerpiece the "Two Commandments" and the old law had for its centerpiece the 10 Commandments. To hide their heresy the Pharisees of the Eastern Orthodox Church deliberately cloud the issue of what the weightier matters of the Law are, more minor issues like the position of the hand in the bogus sign of the cross, and The Filioque are relatively minor in comparison to adulterous remarriage, war (murder) and adding works to actual salvation as a root not a fruit. One should still teach "the least of these commandments" (Matthew 5:19) but they are not on the same level as "the fruit of the Spirit" (positive) or "the works of the flesh" (negative).
note: this heresy is inextricably linked to the heresy of denying the existence of "the works of the flesh" from more minor issues like eating black pudding, men with long hair, etc, but is distinctly a diverse heresy of subterfuge in itself.
( doctrine ) ( conceptual )
107) Spiritual Whoredom - calling the mass bread "God" and bowing to it is idolatry, idolatry with icons, shrines. Theosis etc. ( idolatry ) ( sacerdotalism)
108) Two gospels save. - Evangelicals do not say two gospels save, but the Orthodox do not have the courage to stick properly to their emphatic statement "salvation is found only in Orthodoxy" they then tell everyone they don't want to judge as to whether other people are saved or not. It is yet another oxymoron of theirs. The bible says there is only ONE salvation gospel, and anyone teaching another is anathema, under God's curse! The Orthodox synergy of salvation or process of salvation isn't it.
109) Council of Ephesus 430 Canon 6 decreed deposition from clerical office or excommunication for those who did not accept the Council's decrees.
110) Massive numbers of Traditions - ( forgery )
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TOP 120.
various (authority issues).
111) Orthodoxy is the most oxymoronic faith in the world - I intend to complete a long list of dozens of their oxymoronic doctrines, including that they are pacifist killers, and believe in salvation by grace and works etc. ( doctrine )
112) Heresy of swearing oaths . ( doctrine ) ( sin )
113) Ruled over by Pharisees . ( people )
114) The Forgery of History - forgery includes liturgies, traditional stories of peoples lives, historians making things up, : ( forgery )
115) Incense thuribles - (giddy) ( churchianity ) ( sorcery ) ( sorcery item )
116) Fake miracles - holy fire is just one, myrrh dripping icons etc. Only a gullible person who passes of credulity for faith would believe in them.
( forgery / fakery / sorcery ) ( sin ) ( fraud )
117) Bogus hierarchy / pyramid system : - ( churchianity ) ( people )
118) Orthodox false prophets (as well as teachers) - ( people ) ( bible )
( Pentecostalism )
119) Ecumenicalism - (division over this) The moment millions of the Orthodox turned to being Ecumenical, the moment they accepted another "process of salvation saves". in other words they have two gospels, and if all the Popes were not "anathema" before that as they declared, their profession their church is infallible failed. ( salvation )
( people ) ( church )
120) Their version of the Talmud = the giant tomes of irrelevant dumb writings by a plethora of pillarists, hermits, bogus saints and the like, whose unimportant writings they exalt to being on a par with holy writ, including such as prayer books. ( bible ) ( forgery / fakery)
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TOP 130.
Church plus State Oppression.
121) Christendom: the historical Orthodox concept of Christendom, closely linked with its almost twin heresy "Christian Empire" is one based in tyranny, bloodshed, and imprisonment and no real freedom, ( murder ) ( churchianity ) ( tyranny )
( authority ) ( people ) ( laity ) ( Empire )
122) Serfdom : the social / economic sins by a church that "cannot err"
( murder ) ( churchianity ) ( tyranny ) ( authority ) ( people ) ( laity ) ( Empire )
123) Churchianity - (derogatory) Any practices of Christianity that are viewed as placing a larger emphasis on the habits of church life, rites, rituals, and man made traditions, rather than on biblical theology and spiritual teachings and example of Jesus. ( churchianity )
124) Crypto-converts: their enforced pseudo "conversion" by threats. what kind of religion threatens people with prison, death or persecution if they do not pretend to convert? Huge numbers forced under their phony "saints equal to the apostles", Emperor Charlemagne etc
( murder ) ( churchianity ) ( tyranny )
( authority ) ( people ) ( laity ) ( Empire )
125) They are spiritual drunkards (Rev 17). INDOCTRINATION of children helps produce this. ( churchianity ) ( children ) Thus a low score on the "Corruption Perception Index".
126) Orthodoxy is an Anachronistic Faith (see 162): the sinister use of uniforms in the faith, and crowns and miters, is based on anachronistic comparisons with the old Roman Empire's clothing. Same with architecture and artifacts. They draw pseudo authority from an Empire that was from the start always evil. (conceptual)
( hypocrisy )
127) Ethno-Phyletism issues: this is a tricky issue as some churches where this "sin" goes on are in war torn areas where they wish to avoid people like shooters and suicide bombers and thus wish only to fellowship with people of the same ethnicity. (racism) ( murder )
128) Movable doctrines - "Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them." Proverbs 5:6. Orthodoxy give far less specific answers than Catholic scholars. If it became an embarrassment to them that their doctrine Jesus earned the resurrection for all means he died to burn people in Hell, I guarantee they would change it and say that they were misunderstood.
(conceptual) ( hypocrisy )
129) "All your sins will be forgiven if you go out on The Crusade" - I have yet to find out if the Orthodox Titular Head made the same promise in the Crusades in which the Byzantine half of the Empire participated. Remember that Orthodoxy makes the oxymoronic claim of being pacifist, which is more like in real terms the clergy don't fight, the "laity" must fight. If the Byzantine Orthodox were really pacifist and said so either the Catholics or Arabs would simply walk in and take over the Eastern part of the Empire unopposed. The Orthodox doctrine on this is an insult to the intelligence of their own church goers.
130) The persecution. imprisonment, murder, torture and banishment of real Christians. ( murder ) ( churchianity ) ( tyranny ) ( authority ) ( people ) ( laity ) ( Empire )
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TOP 140 .
131) Canonization in Orthodoxy is called "Glorification to sainthood" - the form of - but Romans 1 tells us all believers are saints. ( saints ) ( churchianity )
132)
133) Changing the meaning of the Greek expressions "believe on" and "believe in" - this means in Greek "to trust in" or "rely on" Jesus for salvation, obviously this is changed by Orthodoxy, just as the word grace is changed.
( salvation )
134) The Three hierarchs (three heretics actually). refers to
1) Basil the Great (also known as Basil of Caesarea), 329 - 379 AD,
sins: rules for monastic life (unbiblical), contributions to heretical canon law, and contribution to liturgies. (for centuries the Orthodox told the uneducated public he wrote the Liturgy of St. Basil now they try to retract that.
2) Gregory the Theologian (also known as Gregory of Nazianzus) . 330-389 AD,
sins: propagated the heretic Origen, Gregory seems to have been an early sacerdotalist (if so he was one of the most evil men who ever lived), his friend Gregory of Nyssa, may have supported some form of the doctrine of apocatastasis,
3) John Chrysostom. (researching) ( saints ) ( bogus saints )
135: Mortification: this topic has some biblical credibility, but not when it is used as a religious deception device, especially in the sense of it achieving purity or the forgiveness of sin, or connected with the hesychasm or monasticism.
( monks ) ( Catholic ) ( mystics )
136) Oversimplification of the character of God:
the Orthodox oversimplify God's character by saying that if God is love (a scripture) he cannot have wrath. It is a puerile oversimplification of God's character, (do we not also naturally and rightly feel angry about many of the worst crimes we hear of?)
They will even compare a God who has wrath with with demons like Baal and Moloch, in other words they say if God has wrath (he does) he is a sinner!!! Do not forget by saying these things they are talking also about the Holy Spirit.
This is involved in 2 other heresies
1) No wrath of God means no fires of Hell (loving them tortures them in Orthodox theology)
2) Jesus never saved us from the wrath of God when he died and rose again, as if he did he achieved salvation for us all on his own, a truth that destroys Orthodox pretensions about a process of salvation that is a synergy. ( God ) ( Hell )
137) Forgiveness of sin through Calvary denied - absurdly Orthodoxy argues that as Jesus forgave individual sin before the cross and resurrection. the gospel does not bring forgiveness to mankind (as if it did their junk priestcraft/works gospel falls apart). The fact that the gospel is not necessarily the only way God can forgive sin does not stop the fact that sin was and is washed away by his blood. One must remember the resurrection adds justification (to be made just in God's sight) as well as his crucifixion dealing with sin. ( salvation ) ( gospel)
138) Reconciliation
and the Hypostatic Union -
(notice they do not say salvation) In Orthodoxy reconciliation happens in the hypostatic union when Christ is conceived or some say born (the combination of divine and human natures in the single person of Christ.) when the perfection of God and "humankind in its totality" (that is human nature as a collective) are inseparably united in Jesus, (all that is Creator and all that is created) so God reconciles humanity to himself in the person of Christ.
The cross - in Orthodoxy is Christ entering into death to destroy the power of death, not to forgive sin (>>>) wow heresy. Jesus did not die to earn hell for those who would not be otherwise resurrected.
Eastern Church tends towards a therapeutic model of which sees sin as illness,
( salvation ) ( gospel)
139) Renunciation of Errors (in Chrismation ceremonies) - renounce in public the Reformation and the Protestant / Evangelical gospel as false. Laughably they then later on masquerade as Evangelicals as the simple Evangelical gospel is too powerful to oppose. ( salvation ) ( gospel)
140) Denial of "the works of the flesh". The Orthodox are very tricky about this issue. They deny the doctrine of Catholicism of "venial sin and mortal sin" but avoid the more directly biblical issue that certain sins are put in the special classification of "works of the flesh". ( sin ) ( LAW )
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141) A cherry-picking form of The Judaizing heresy - they cherry pick the old law now quote "done away" as if the old testament is there for them to pick and choose laws, and create a new syncretic faith (which is exactly what they have done). What is different about Orthodoxy is (unlike most Judaizing cults) the laws they cherry pick from Mosaic Law are blended with traditions that are entirely anti Mosaic Law (like leavended wine and bread in communion) and even aspects of antisemitism. They do not seem to understand old law was done away, was draconian ("that neither we nor our fathers could bear" - Peter) we do not pick, choose and reinvent bits to keep now, like "holy beards" or golden artefacts in the temple.
note: It is indeed a paradox that Eastern Orthodoxy is on the one hand strongly resists the Judaizing heresy of the so called "Hebrew Roots Movement" yet they have invented a syncretic religion that involves cherry picking old testament concepts and laws and mixing them with the new testament law. ( salvation ) (LAW)
142) They deny the character of the new covenant which is freedom - the new covenant is characterised by freedom in Christ, they adopt the most draconian concepts of the old Mosaic Covenant (described as done away) in order to bring believers in the new covenant era into religious bondage to clockwork religious concepts like keeping a plethora of feasts. In Christ we have freedom about days (Rom 16) and we have freedom in food (Col 2:21) what is more the imposed fast days and food regulations break another of Christs teachings - to keep your fasting a secret. ( salvation ) (LAW)
143) They deny the Millennium Kingdom - as far as my studies go so far, the Eastern Orthodox religion are amillennialist in their theology, probably because they cannot stand the thought Jesus will return, reign here, sweep away the fake sacerdotalist ministry, and rule with those who would not take the mark of the beast. In other words the Eastern Orthodox fake ministry will be swept away.
( Eschatology ) ( authority )
144) Candle lighting - are considered sacrifices to Mary and saints. Mentioned in Rev 18 as sins of the Whore of Babylon. More ritualism and churchianity practices instead of an ongoing relationship with God. They simply discovered people love to light candles, and used this human fascination to destroy human souls. Candles are often used in witchcraft. ( witchcraft ) ( prayer )
145) The liturgical year - the cycle of liturgical seasons, feast days, including celebrations of saints, to be observed in a display of foolish clockwork religiosity, having portions of Scripture to be read out like robots either in an annual cycle or in a cycle of several years. ( salvation ) ( liturgy ) ( forgery )
( spirituality)
146) Canon Law - an admixture of truth and heresy that to the Orthodox has more authority than the new testament. (LAW)
147) Cathedrals - God's Cathedral in Acts was to be in nature by a river. Building big church buildings is largely an insult to the poor. ( churchianity )
( religious hypnotism )
148) Leavened Bread & alcoholic wine in the eucharist - the evidence of scripture would suggest the wine and bread were both unleavened. ( the mass )
149) Nepsis linked with Catharsis: Parallels could likely be made between nepsis and Jewish devekut. showing yet another Talmudic type root of Orthodox whoredom with religions. Both nepsis and catharsis have elements of truth but were systematized in links with monastic religious pretentions. ( monks ) ( gurus ) (Catholic)
150) Forbidding to interpret and have doctrines on the Book of Revelation - a clear attempt to hide from the Orthodox the evidence that Orthodoxy is a daughter of the Mother of Harlots. note... when Orthodoxy itself does interpret Revelation they seem to make one heresy after another - the woman in Rev 12 is Mary instead of Israel, they are amillennial, they claim the presence of incense in heaven means it is a divine directive to intoxicate church goers with clouds of it. ( eschatology )
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151) The Canons of the Council of Nicea, and Nicene Creed (325) (and other Creeds) contain much heresy, yet are treated as if on a par with scripture.
( authority ) (LAW)
152) The church tradition (and thus infallible) that Cremation destroys the soul.
that any should could be annihilated is heresy, but this also denies Hitler (if he was cremated) escapes eternal punishment. ( tradition ) ( salvation ) ( death cult )
( burials )
153) Orthodox Christian (or Christian) should or must be buried in consecrated ground - and that the definition of that is that it is consecrated by all their Babylonian rituals. ( tradition ) ( salvation ) ( death cult ) ( burials )
154) False man made burial rites of no importance - according to the Orthodox rites and service of burial (Nekrosimos). (anything about funerals is an emotive issue). ( tradition ) ( salvation ) ( death cult ) ( burials )
155) The (so called) Church may deny a burial on Orthodox land to those who have committed a sin such as blasphemy, suicide, denial of their faith etc. In other words refusing to bury a person if he became a real Christian (for instance). Pure heresy and manipulation. What is more - if they deny mortal sin or "works of the flesh" and all sin is the same, why forbid burial in this way? ( tradition ) ( salvation ) ( death cult ) ( burials )
156) The ovum of Mary must definitely have been used in Christ's conception - so far as I understand Orthodoxy insists that you must believe that the actual ovum of Mary was used in the conception of Christ ( the prophecy quoting thy "seed" does not necessarily mean "her ovum") and not that his conception was entirely miraculous but in her womb without the ovum used. I am not denying her ovum was used, but I do question forcing young believers to form a definite doctrine on this. To them it is an essential or more central issue as to them the hypostatic union heals corporate human nature. The belief that Mary's ovum must be used is of less controversy as they do not believe in original sin, (Catholics believe the conception of Mary herself was miraculous). ( Mary ) ( salvation )
157) Beards and the clergy - so what are they actually saying? Only the clergy should have beards, or all Orthodox men? And is the old covenant law on beards still here, including not trimming the edges? It might be interesting to find out how many bishops of Rome had beards before the 1054 split. It is part of Messianic Judaism to keep these beard laws when the new testament calls the old law done away (2 Cor 3), and an emphasis on how the Orthodox have never understood the covenants of God. ( gurus ) ( LAW ) ( inverse Babylonization )
158) Ordination gives Authority to teach - Holy Spirit as our personal guide and teacher (Protestant / Evangelical) versus ordination. ( authority ) ( LAW )
159) Mystification of doctrine: - bible says to be clear. ( mystery babylon ) ( LAW ) ( inverse Babylonization )
160) The "laity" - Jesus says "you are all brethren". This is the root of Scofield's interpretation of Nicolaitan heresy which contains Nico - lording / power over - laitan (laos) - the laity, The Orthodox often say this was a sex cult started by the Nicholas of the bible (more forgery of history by them). ( inverse Babylonization )
( early cults - Laodicean ) ( authority )
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161) The 7 Sins of Rome (Rev 18:1-24):
1) "The fruits that thy soul lusted after" - world wide trade in artefacts, and dainty and goodly things.
2) pretentious religious music, in the case of Orthodoxy (a daughter of Rome) this takes the form of chanting not singing. Chanting heresy is supposed to fool you into thinking it is holy. etc.
3) craftsman - idols, church finery etc
4) millstone - the mass bread
5) candle burning rituals
6) bride and groom - marriage falsely termed a sacrament
7) thy sorceries - the witchcraft of her heresies and practices.
162) It is an oxymoronic religion - (perhaps more than any other sect claiming to be Christian)
163) No work on Sunday?? - Catholics say you should not work on Sunday, except for a few exceptions they make, like perhaps doctors on call, or workers in an electrical power-plant etc. The Orthodox are more cagey on this and I have yet to extract a definitive answer. The (erroneous) doctrine is in effect treating Sunday as a "new sabbath" but less draconian. The Christian sabbath is eternal (Hebrews 4) earned for believers by Christ.
164) The Anathemas - (eg of the synod Constantinople): the heresy of declaring people anathema over calendar issues, but themselves bringing on themselves the anathema of God promised in Galatians 1:6-9 by preaching their false gospel of works and sacerdotalism.
165) Religious Colonialism by land buying.
LAND GRABBING
The church is the second-largest landowner in Greece, after the state, with about 130,000 hectares.
166) Infallible traditions of the church in general - be honest with yourself..... if just one of the criticisms I make on this website about Orthodoxy and traditions is true, then their entire "infallible church traditions" idea drops to pieces. It is an "infallible heresy".
167) Churches being autocephalous and non autocephalous - (of an Eastern Christian Church) appointing its own head, not subject to the authority of an external patriarch or archbishop. The Orthodox Church in America (OCA) for instance is not recognized as an autocephalous church. In Evangelicalism there is ONE church, that is the body of Christ. A bishop is not an overseer anywhere in the new testament of one or several countries. The Apostles were church planters and had special authority from God and Orthodoxy does not claim they are apostles.
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168) That angels are superior in nature and intelligence to man - wrong as we are the sons of God, they are not.
169) Unprovable Angelic order (tagmata):
170) In the Orthodox worship, every Monday is dedicated to the angels.
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171) Hank Hanegraaff and the Fifty Fifty Cult:
he preaches a mongrel Faith and is not put in his place. because of the sin of respect of persons
Hank Hanegraaff's apostasy from the Protestant Faith into Eastern Orthodoxy is of significance more because he is highlighting a new wave of heresy in the Orthodox religion, that might be best called "the fifty fifty cult" were the Orthodox do not exercise the discipline that is supposed to characterize their church, and allow people like Hank to preach a shape shifting new potpourri religion that is neither Evangelical, nor Orthodox. So just remember - every time you hear him preaching he is living proof of a lack of discipline in the Orthodoxy Faith (proof they are not in the Spirit in itself), and that they allow their novice proselytes to preach what amounts to a new fifty fifty cult that is neither Protestantism nor Eastern Orthodoxy just contradictory nonsense.
172) Mysticism. quote: "The premise of all mysticism is that experiential knowledge of God takes preference over doctrinal understanding of the character and being of God because of the transcendent nature of God. One of the ways mysticism gained a foothold in Eastern Orthodoxy was by the emphasis of certain Orthodox “Church Fathers” upon the “way of negation” also known as “apophatic”1 theology."
173) The strange tradition of "Crowning" in their marriage ceremony was probably introduced into their religion to let them say "Are we not all crowned when we marry" in order to justify their absurdly proud practice of putting crowns on bishop's heads.
174) Female deacons, nuns, abbesses etc, justified partly by their false believe several females they see as saints were "equal to the apostles". Women were anointed by the Spirit at Pentecost. that does not however mean they are to be deacons.
175) Liturgy and restriction of languages - Liturgies and "services" prior to the 9th century were in Greek only, the Catholics claim Latin (perhaps a division in the Empire halves, or.... someone among them is lying) only later other specific languages were introduced. This is worth researching as if its true two distinct languages were used it almost inevitably was a sign a rift would occur by 1054.
176) Sycophancy to political figures, kings and queens.
This sin has pervaded their faith to saturation level, from the days of the mass murderer Emperor Constantine, to the fawning of modern day Russians toward President Vladimir Putin. It is deadly heresy, as it is not the fulfilment of Romans 13 in that it does not so much recognize figures like Pharaoh and Nebuchadnezzar etc can be used by God just as the Assyrian were in Isaiah 10, but rather exalts these political figures to the level of David, Samson, Gideon or Joshua, which they never are.
177) Evolutionism is taught by many (under pressure from the state) they are cowards in the face of secular persecution. They are not put in their place for this and repudiated and disciplined. Chi;dren are being indoctrinated with illogical pseudoscience.
178) Homosexuality is accepted by many as "biblical" (under pressure from the state ) some of their bishops are cowards in the face of secular persecution, and are not being reprimanded and put in their place.
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180) Giving babies and children alcohol.
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TOP 190.
**) That icons, saints bones, artifacts, relics "work miracles" - the cunning justification for this is that through Paul's shadow, Elijah's bones, the ark of the covenant, the serpent in the wilderness, etc, miracles occurred, and therefore their false claim is true that icons (idols) and saint's bones (usually entirely fake replacements) artifacts and relics (almost all fakes) also work miracles also. It is as dumb as saying "As the Gospel of John is true..... therefore Bel and the Dragon is true, when it is a clear naive forgery).
Deny their fakery? Then you are accused of being Gnostic!
( sin ) ( churchianity )
Relics, artefacts, so bad it is like a "death cult". In times past the lie of having the bones, relics and clothes of every apostle, John the Baptist and Mary etc "proved" to the simple minded that Orthodoxy was and is a church God was trusting with these relics, but in our education enlightened age the same bogus relics are total proof they are frauds.
TOP 10 section:
I want to emphasise in a MASSIVE way just how deceptive and corrupt the issue of relics, artifacts and fake religious sites is in the Orthodoxy formula to destroy souls. They in effect try to prove they are the one and only true church, by saying they have a museum full of holy objects, all "real", to prove that they are, and it is all a big miracle from God, when in reality it is more like a fairground sideshow full of items of pseudo-religious junk. Millions of uneducated people have fallen for these fake items, and millions of more intelligent people for some crazy reason ignore their own realisation it is all cheap trickery.
181) TOP 10 Monastic Deceptions.
Monasteries and Nunneries - There are no monasteries full of monks in the bible. The whole idea is absurd.
182) TOP 100 Schisms .
They lie about their massive number of Schisms and sects.
Their main criticism of the Protestant faith is the number of schisms or sects in it, then lie about the simply massive number of divisive schisms they hace themselves.
183) TOP 10 - Holy sites.
I can hardly emphasize how heretical the Catholic and Orthodox views of "Holy Sites" in places like Jerusalem and Constantinople etc are. The Crusades were fought over these issues. Many hundreds of thousands have died in wars over these "holy sites", more if you count knock-on effects on civilians. Some of them are real enough places, but laughably in a morose way many of the locations claiming to be the actual sites are false. It is all so heretical because Galatians chapter 4 makes it clear that real Christians (Sarah Christians) are spiritually minded, having forsaken ideas like defending with warfare places like Earthly Jerusalem, and are Pilgrims on a journey toward Heavenly Jerusalem, they are in other words pacifists who do not defend notions of religious sites with violence. This is the fulfilment of the new testament form of the old Feast of Tabernacles, just as sincerity is the fulfilment of the old now defunct Feast of Passover (the passover led to Jesus saving us in his death and resurrection, which in turn led to us being born again, which in turn led to an increase in sincerity among believers). Holy sites have become part and parcel with territorialism and violence in a deadly combination.
1) Multiple sites in Jerusalem (massive blood shed).
2) Hagia Sophia - Cathedral built in the 6th century AD (532–537) under the direction of the Byzantine emperor Justinian I. This begs the question - if Orthodoxy is so "holy" and "right with God", why has it been a mosque for so long? And still is to this very day? Just as the Jewish religion is proven wrong by the fact that their temple in Jerusalem has been destroyed for almost 2,000 years. This is just one downside of having unbiblical religious so called "holy religious sites".
184) TOP 10 Relics of persons in the bible :
Remember all the relics, bones, bodies and artifacts were in the middle ages and earlier times used to "prove" to the uneducated "laity" that Orthodoxy, or the early sacerdotalist church before them, was the "true church". In more educated and enlightened times these relics are so transparently fake they prove the Orthodox religion for the fake it really is!
185) TOP 10 Fake saints relics :
There are thousands, so 10 chosen at random:
186) TOP 10 - Bodies / body parts .
1) The Finger of John the Baptist - (not just any finger, the one used to point out Jesus as the Lamb of God
187) TOP 10 Church artifacts:
The Viking raiders would have had nothing to rob in the first place if the so called "church" never had so much gold, silver and precious stones.
188) TOP 10 General Artifact relics - (under construction)
e.g.
1) The Holy Grail (lots of them).
2) Mary (the Mother of Jesus), belt, robes, clothes.
189) TOP 10 Architecture -
1) Bishop's Thrones - absurd.
2) gold leaf mosaics. and gold leaf all over churches
(long list)
3) Gargoyles and demons and the devil in icons and pictures (Gargoyles are mainly Catholic but remember all post 1054 churches were supposedly one religion, and images of Satan, Beelzebub, Moloch, Baal and demons in general festoon Orthodox art, thus they are making images of false gods (Psalm 96:5, Deuteronomy 32:16-17)
190) TOP 10 Uniforms . (find and erase)
A long time ago the Orthodox Pharisees found out that if they dress up in gaudy, golden, ostentatious glittering uniforms. the gullible majority (or people on the "broad way" to destruction) will buy the lie that this is some sort of heaven sent sign that they are men of God, when in fact these vain glorious uniforms and crowns are solid proof the bishops of Orthodoxy are the puppets of Satan and the underworld. Though bishops dressed-up this way look like religious clowns in a circus, the deception has worked against millions of people out of contact with the word of God. The public need to see that when all the costumes and crowns and rites and rituals are taken away, what would remain is a herd of religious dunces who have never grasped the first principles of the faith.
%) Bishop's crowns
%) Bishop's rings
%) Bishop's medallions
% Bishop's Croziers
%) Bishop's High Relief Crosses ( a get around for a Catholic style crucifix idol) including baptism crosses, and various bishop's show their rank through wearing them.
Mitres and crowns. (Gr. Mitra). I find it entirely stupid to think Christians in church should wear crowns on their heads. The official headdress or "crown" of a bishop. In Slavic churches, some archimandrites are allowed to wear the mitre as a recognition of their service to the church (mitrateor mitrophoros). The mitre derives from the crown of the Byzantine emperor.
note: incredibly revealing! They confirm themselves the "scarlet and purple heresy" by saying these crowns derives from Byzantine Emperors!!!
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191) TOP 10 "Holy" Witchcraft paraphernalia
- potions, powders, items and substances.
1) Mass wine and Mass bread - Without doubt the number 1 witchcraft item of Eastern Orthodoxy is the mass bread and wine, declared sorcery, filthiness and fornication by God himself. The fake cheap magic trick of holy cannibalism, in the blink of an eye, it "turns into God incarnate" It looks, smells, tastes, feels and sounds like bread and wine (because it is!) BUT it is actually God incarnate. it is real leavened wine with water added. This liquid is then subjected to various rites and rituals amounting to sorcery. when it supposedly becomes Christs entire body. As I understand it the Orthodox say the same thing as Catholics - the wine is not just his blood, but that in every drop is the entire body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ - which you will notice is therefore claiming they take it literally, but saying something different.. The bread is put into the wine then fed to people on a spoon, perhaps to stop people dropping crumbs and "standing on Jesus". The clergy however take "the elements" separately.
2) Chrism . This is supposedly the magic potion used to bring eternal life, possessed only by Orthodox priests, containing a tiny presence of original chrism from the apostles (ridiculous) plus dozens of ingredients, and then zapped into power by rites and rituals of only top rank orthodox wizards (mere priests and ordinary bishops don't have "the power").
3) Holy water .
4) Myrrh dripped from icons .
5) separate anointing oils .
6) Candles .
192) TOP 10 gesticulations - note a new hand gesture was introduced into Russia which you could be killed or imprisoned for , if you contradicted it and opposed it, The reforms were by Patriarch Nikon of Moscow between 1652 and 1666. After 1685 = you could be executed.
Frankly this sign use is not only not in the bible, but it is used at the level of a Wicca hand gesture as it is often used to pseudo validate pure blasphemy and heresy (magic by the use of hand signals and incantations alone is considered a advanced form of witchcraft)
193) TOP 10 Incantations (hocus-pocus). (under construction)
research the following in regards to orthodoxy....
alchemy, astrology - disguised as calendarization, horoscopes, augury, devilry. diabolism. divination, enchantment, exorcism, illusion. incantation. legerdemain, magnetism, necromancy, occultism, power, prediction, soothsaying, sorcery, spell, superstition, taboo, thaumaturgy, trickery. voodoo (cursing people = bogus anathema ceremonies/rituals/incantation). witchcraft, wizardry, sortilege, fortune-telling, hocus-pocus, putting hexes on people
194) TOP 10 Forgeries:
1) The Pseudo-Isidorian Decretals. (see also The Decretum)
2) "Bel and the Dragon" and other old testament added Books.
3) Forgery of the existence of Early Bishops, and the "facts of" their lives/doctrines.
4) "by tradition" invented stories about just about everything.
5) Hiding Inquisition facts (etc) from public view in Vatican Library.
6) The forgery of pseudo saints.
195) TOP 10 Fake Holy Sites .
196) TOP 10 Fake miracles .
197) TOP 10 Sins Shared with (modern) Protestantism
(especially the so called "High" Church.
1) Killing in Wars .
2) Capital punishment (including mutilation) .
3) Swearing Oaths .
4) False prophecy .
5) Ordination (not tied to Apostolic Succession) that is the denial a teacher can manifest direct from God, not going through their church system" .
6) Committing adultery by second marriage *since the publication of the modern bible versions that falsely change the work "porneia" in Matthew 5:32 to include post marital adultery) .
7) Ecumenicalism.
198) TOP 100 Fake Saints :
eg "Saints Equal to the Apostles" about half of whom were murderous rulers. (eg The Emperor Constantine) - include theologians ( saints ) ( murder )
research also:
Hand signals and gestures, hand wavings, beckonings. pointings, hand signs (they even say they have the very finger John the Baptist identified Jesus as the Lamb of God with) that amount to witchcraft and sorcery by sleight of hand, prestidigitation, cardistry, trickster fingers, religious misdirection, manipulations, related to hypnotism, equivocation, Equivoque, Psychokinesis, assaults disguised as casting out devils, magic wand croziers, etc. especially related to the blasphemies of the Orthodox mass, casting out devils etc.
linked to church services similar to seances
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